The Websleuther who dug up the scanner traffic wrote: State Police out of Lafayette have an 8-county coverage area - including in and around Monticello. Years ago I went down the Beeks rabbit hole and crawled out concluding the Beeks have nothing to do with this. I stopped following this case. The girls' causes of death have never been disclosed and their killer has never been found. Could LE find the ISP of the profile's creator? R503 Definitely. I agree with the poster who said hes done this before. I've thought about it repeatedly since it happened. These are things that I can see but we all get our own impressions. (1961). Around that time I thought for sure it had to be because BG had used the same thing. Several serial killers would return to the decomposing bodies of their victims. A good case can take time to develop. He could have printed it out, traced it on his arm, and inked the crummy tattoo himself or had a buddy do it in 2016. The guy behind Anthony schotz profile was in communication with Libby all weekend long. Garnett testified that Delphi had come to his home after learning her parents were angry with her for leaving her brothers and going to a party. The audio of a mans voice saying down the hill was seconds long and was released free of video. He just needs to know when the trail exists, when it is empty, and that two women entered alone. Looking at one photo of him outside somewhere with train tracks/trees in the background startled me for some reason. She looked pretty and like she was asleep. The vague talk and all the initials instead of full names doesn't help most of us who clicked on that link. Yes, this IS a very interesting thought/comment. Carter added that investigators believe the suspect was between 18 and 40 years old, but likely looks much younger than his age. Who would remember that years later to the day? R216: Regarding the 2/14/2017 (approximate 22:21 time) scanner traffic: Its the dispatcher returning registration info on B*ian and B*njamin Beeks Monticello 2008 light blue Toyota. He collected a lot of weird knives, I think. Nations once lived in Indiana and faced charges in September 2017 for threatening people with a hatchet on a rural trail in Colorado. The bodies were discovered after a man's attention was drawn to the sight of 2 deer. Police did not elaborate as to specifically why police believe the account may be tied to the murders of Abby and Liberty. James Brian Chadwell has a tie to Peru, IN where fat pedo lives. Women hating bullies identify with him. What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. Im not sure how that fits with religious iconography. 1. It is, she said, a truly interesting case.. Delphi Lawrence died on April 11, 2002 at the age of 70 years. In January 2021, the creators of a smartphone app called CrimeDoor provided a unique and eerie look at the fateful day Abby and Libby encountered their killer in Delphi, Indiana. They stayed for most of the testimony, but left when medical examiner Halbert Fillinger testified about the case of death. Those amateur sleuths on Reddit are batshit crazy. r319 Jack the Ripper did something similar to Mary Kelly after he killed her in her small bedsit room. According to Leigh Kerr there was a religious aspect to the crime scene and the bodies were staged. It's not him. I was recently educated on this point by someone who knows more about True Crime than I do. Along with the new sketch, police also updated their description of the suspect to be a man between 18 and 40 years old, who could appear much younger than he actually is. Doug Carter read a few things during the press conference that seemed to come straight from a profiler, designed fuck with the killer's mind. After this look at the latest updates on the Delphi murders, read about six grisly cases that remain unsolved and the chilling story of Myra Hindley and the Moors murders. These would later be some of the only clues the police had at their disposal, and the enigmatic, blurred Delphi murders video continues to haunt the internet. I cant decide if hes a fraud or has inside info. No one has ever talked. And R364, you're an asshole. He does look remarkably like the Bridge man. Liberty Libby German and Abigail Abby Williams were best friends who went everywhere together. There is an escort from that area who recorded the judge Kurtis Fouts and he resigned. LE has really messed up -- particularly waiting too long to release info. That might also explain why they would keep some of the recordings from the public. It looks terrifying even without the psycho killer lurking. As of February, Leazenby said, investigators have received more than 50,000 tips. But posting inside a thread is okay, unless it's one of their delusional political stories. Like, we're doing this cool thing tomorrow afternoon. That's it. The Delphi killings remain a uniquely disturbing case that refuses to leave the publics consciousness. HE WALKED SLOW ON THE BRIDGE!). They all looked like his girlfriend who dumped him. Obviously we would have had to rely on other evidence gained, from all sources. I'm from Australia and expressed my sympathy and hope that the murderer/s would be caught swiftly. The window was right next to the door, the only light coming into the room. This perp needs to be caught and fried. Such a smart little girl. This killer sounds like he has a remarkably similar MO. He has killed before. R425, LE just announced a " blackout" on any person of interest in this case. Delphi Lawrence's net worth He said he offered to take her home and try to help, but that his stepfather overruled him. I thought they had a suspect. More than two years after the audio clip was released, Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter held a press conference to unveil a new composite sketch of the suspected killer. Wish he was because those girls need justice and the thought of that demon still out there is terrifying. OP/R21 the thought of there being 40 minutes of audio/video footage is truly gut-wrenching to even imagine. Audible gunshots would have potentially drawn attention. Yeah..:I wondered because it sounds like from her posts that he fooled them into thinking he was law enforcement. Knives, guns, ect. They have created a new team to look at this case off-site. That tattoo alone should convict his sick ass, imo. I think this thread has a virus or something? I am not a good judge of age, he looks to be anywhere from late twenties to late thirties, early forties from that photo. The families sponsored a food drive for charity in the girls' names. They're probably going to kill you anyway. R338-- What makes them doubt it's him, if you don't mind telling us a bit about it. His father, Defields Lawrence, had died in 2001. I'm sure I read that somewhere. I've never understood why the girls didn't call 911. What a tragic shame. There is a new sketch of BG in which he looks much younger. There is a large meat plant in the area. Here you can see and hear the video of the suspect. He was caught while abducting and trying to kill a young girl (same MO). Oh thank you R226, R227! A brief audio clip, which police have always said was just a small clip of what they have from Libbys phone, was released on Feb. 22, 2017. "'Everybody sees a person differently. Again, this is all from the same person described above, but you can see the outline on his clothing, imo. It wasn't too long ago and I wonder if that corresponds with the timing of this revelation, This will not be the guy- he is too fat- the guy in the video is far thinner than his baggy clothes make him look (And clearly has weaponry in his shirt), I agree R145, but apparently there are pics of him from 2017 where he's thinner (haven't seen them yet). Listen above to the History Uncovered podcast, episode 24: The Delphi Murders, also available on iTunes and Spotify. So far, no additional information has been released and Indiana State Police have still not identified the vehicle or a possible person who may have been driving it. Anyone could have easily convinced the young girls that they werent allowed to be on the bridge and must return by a different route, then guiding them down the hill to an alternative route to the trail head. MYSTERY continues to surround the so-called Delphi Snapchat murders, nearly five years on from the killings of two teenage girls in Indiana who were found dead near a train track back in 2017. Links to more Entertainment stories are at the foot of the page. Short legs, but not abnormally short. If the perpetrator is indeed in law enforcement, theres incentive for a major cover up. The fat pedo does look like the old Bridge Man police sketch but then almost every guy in the state of Indiana looks like the Old Bridge Guy sketch. She lost a shoe on a private driveway on the side of the creek where the bodies were found. R89- How long until the girls were found? I think that guy (who has obviously gained a lot of weight since some of them were taken) could very easily be the killer. Save a ton of time and money on investigations, get criminals in jail or in electric chairs. i don't know why. [quote][R349] Not according to Chadwell's brother in the local news clip. I don't buy that one. I just hope LE has enough evidence against him for a conviction. The sheriff is also shaped like the man in the photos and videos. I think an officer would have a holster, even a hidden one. Cases like this are why I dont want to grt rid of the death penalty. By bits and pieces, they told me it was a relative that did the killing, Lawrence said in an interview earlier this month. Did she fight back, did the killer see something about her that didn't like? Not saying that they were definitely not up to something but not necessarily either. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. I remember there was a long thread (or more than one) about this when it happened. Now it looks like they were and by this fat pedo. But Garnett also told the jury more. WebDELPHI, Ind. I think this is the likely reason and if so it is a very clever tactic. I thought they had brought in a suspect a few months after the killings who seemed like the likely perp? The boyfriend and his brother were known for importing drugs through their small town, very well connected to the drug suppliers, the girlfriend found out and was killed. And its having one individual with the strength to say that was my brother, thats my dad, or thats my cousin, thats my neighbor, my co-worker. The cops could have taken the images and recording from the cloud. Thanks R5 I did search and didnt find anything. I saw someone mention they thought both girls were strangledthinking about that, means 1 girl had to watch this happen to the other..which i dont see happening. Shocker. Q. Is he the guy here continually saying "No way it's him. Why haven't we heard anything? On the favorite mystery thread, a poster mentioned the Delphi Murders and I looked them up. At the time, it was uncertain exactly what the totality of the circumstances were. Delphi Lawrences hobbies are Reading, photography, learning, traveling, internet surfing and to name a few. Where there no cameras around that area at the time? [bold]He doesn't have to be from the area.[/bold]. [quote] This guy had a gun and a knife(s), [quote]Just based on what I think is true-. The guys whose photos were stolen is fug. Ted Bundy even applied make-up and nail polish to the bodies, and also had sex with the bodies. No. I also tend to believe stuff released from family members, although I understand people may feel differently. I just started investigating this case. Clearly this case is cold. A truck driver maybe or someone whose job requires travel. Delphi Lawrences income source is mostly from being a successful Actress. The music was so loud it overpower the interviews and narratives. Bluestine, of the Innocence Project, said that cases in which the strongest, or only, piece of evidence is a defendants confession are many times the ones that are later shown to be wrongful prosecutions. I worked with a barrister once who had had to view CP images. Guys, the leaker, Leigh Kerr, will answer questions in an AM(almost)A tomorrow (Sunday) at 6:00pm EST. I think it's someone they know and with whom they shared their porn files. If Cheyenne did indeed call 911, the tape should be released. We still have the up and down days is the best way to put it, he said. That little girl was only 9 years old. Thats good I think. Chadwell worked at a Saburu factory but I think it was in Lafayette, IN. I really do hope that he is caught some day - and that his lawyer doesn't get him off on some technicality. The sound editing was much better. This one really bothers me in a way others don't. According to the officer, Garnett told police that he and Delphi had gone to a coal yard in the southeast section of the borough, where he forced her to have sex with him. She was almost beheaded. I used to believe it was the former but as the years have gone on I think it's the latter. It took the panel two hours to return with a penalty of life behind bars. I couldn't read the replies to that post so maybe s/he did in later posts. Never help someone take you somewhere ("I'll do anything you want just please don't hurt me") or let them tie you up- even if they have a gun or knife pointed at you. Just seeing how close he was at this point in video and how the girls knew he was trouble, the thoughts going through their head at that time really fucking awful. The model's images were reportedly used without their knowledge or consent. Hes a little bit too skinny to look like bridge guy but I can kind of see it. That sketch, which appears to be of an entirely different person, is now believed to be the main person of interest in the murders of Libby and Abby. If someone has knowledge of nonpublic information about the cause of death, they probably did it or know who did. I think it's the newest suspect entry on the Wikipedia page. Praying for justice for the victim and families. READ | ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. It's hard to believe the DNA found under Libbys nails has yielded nothing. We don't have much information about She's past relationship and any previous engaged. I don't know how to post pictures but if you look at the video when he turns his head to the left you can see a younger guy. False confessions can be quickly discounted if they state a false COD. The video shows the suspect walking along the bridge behind Libby and Abby. They still get tips on the hotline. Not saying they werent expecting to meet someone, just that kids do hang out in nature, doing nothing. If they have someone who is 90% a good candidate for killer, I just have him "suicide.". Somebody out there knows who this person is. The man in the video doesn't need to be from the area. Congratulations on this excellent venture what a great idea! Maybe this is the only thing he says without their voices mixed in. It would have saved the county the cost of a trial. Horrifying. He deserves life in prison for what he did to the 9 yr old girl, regardless of guilt for the Delphi murders. "The sketch isnt a photograph. It was rarer still for someone of Garnetts young age to be charged with first-degree murder and face death row. This page will put a light upon the Delphi Lawrence bio, wiki, age, birthday, family details, affairs, controversies, caste, height, weight, rumors, lesser-known facts, and more. If ithe Bridge Man was someone in law enforcement, the girls may have initially trusted him and acted with compliance if he showed his badge. R50 I saw those images but cant make them out. It would take a full thread to note some things that have been released by law enforcement. He spent a lot of time outdoors, even camping under a bridge, and he's clearly a psychopath even if it's not him. Her only child. Police should have been releasing more info in this case. What happened to the girls doesn't have to have been "freaky" to upset people, just finding them partly clothed or nude and dead, possibly posed, would be bad enough. R153 The recording Liberty German made, yeah. Back up your claims please. A true cold case provides no leads, no information to follow into. ", Anyone with information about this case is encouraged to send tips to this email address: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. But it's his "type," the type he kills. They are withholding info for a reason. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). She died on April 11, 2002 in Northport, Long Island, New York, USA. Were you supervised 24/7 when you were 15? She made her first film in 1952, and, over the next decade, she established a following in British films. Also how did he get her exact image if it was before the murder? Down the hill and two sketches from possible witnesses in the area the day the girls were murdered. However, we do not know when the inquiry was made about the Toyota nor if it was even near Delphi. Glad Im not on Facebook. Within days of the killing, showing two grainy photos of a hat-wearing suspect walking on the abandoned railroad bridge the girls had visited, Liberty's older sister Kelsi German revealed in February 2020 that she is studying forensic science in the hope of one-day helping to solve who killed her sister, Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, was identified as the man behind the catfish account, Grandparents of victim Libby German, Becky Patty, left, and her husband Mike Patty, speak during a news conference, Brother of suspect in 2017 Delphi railtrack murders says he's 'absolutely' capable of killing two girls after 'kidnap', released by police within days of the killings, pleaded guilty to abducting, beating, and molesting a nine-year-old girl, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). I think I would have nightmares for the rest of my life. R61 They probably thought it was just some creep following them and didn't need the police. The main suspect/killer is probably well-connected, like a local politician's son. Ok, that tattoo gave me chills. Small town or not, this is the 21st century. One of them, Jimmy Dale Duvall, is dead now. That would be the only reason they might drag their feet. There's a reason they want to move you to another area. Girls or women who are pregnant with a baby that their boyfriend/husband/hookup doesn't want are targets for homicide. One day, months later, the father took his young son out hunting on some land that bordered the land of the boyfriends, the son was looking through the scope of the rifle and noticed something across from them, the father went to look through the scope and was shot and killed. R45 I think they crossed at a shallow point? Crossing that bridge was a thrill and evidently was Abbys first time. But the Facebook is a girlso you believe its a male? Pedophiles identify with him. Do you consider this a cold case? What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. A fishing kit of some kind can be seen on his person, as well as a gun. Social media, although not new does impede our investigation. The bodies were found on someone's property, weren't they? Apparently they have stumbled upon a major pedo ring during the Delphi investigation and that has lead them to this father son team and several social media profiles. Three years in, here's everything we know about the investigation into the murders of Libby and Abby: It was an unseasonably warm day and an unexpected day off from school when friends Liberty German and Abigail Williams decided to visit the trails near the Monon High Bridge and take some photographs. Weight ages you. Some of the girls' clothing was found floating in the creek that they had been forced to cross. The tattoo is creepy because the blank/empty show depersonalization, yet the tears (or blood) indicate suffering. R345, it's stated upthread that his creepy tattoo pre-dates the Delphi murders. Kelly's room was less than 10' X 10', whoever entered immediately saw the blue eyes glistening at them from a bloody cut-up corpse. Was video collected throughout Delphi from Feb. 13, 2017 including video from the building across from the abandoned CPS building (The Andersons)? A woman who lives in the area of the murders had complained to the man (RL) whose barn may have been used for the murders that she saw some guy cooking meth at the cemetery. When Abby and Libby did not come back for pickup at 5:30 p.m., their parents reported them missing. Please click here to register for free. I realize not all agree with my responses he said. The police sketch that LE recently released (where the guy looks younger) was actually the first police sketch that was drawn. R62- Do you think he was "speaking code" to the killer? Okay doing my random check in. And isn't that area known as a popular place to hike, and i think people took wedding photos, engagement pictures there. We dont know.. R474 They recently (1 mo ago?) I truly thought this was a crime of opportunity. I'm not sure I'd walk on it period. No teenage girls want to "go for a walk" without having a different motive. This fat guy wouldn't surprise anyone. I think that they cracked the Atlanta Child Murders case. We endeavor to be promptly responsive in correcting errors in the material published on digital platforms. that sketch looks a LOT like him. They were on another phone.". According to officials at the county Clerk of Courts Office, two boxes of evidence from Garnetts trial are still being held in storage. [anyone actually]. This is as messed up as the JonBenet Ramsey murder. One of the things I found strange was the then DA saying the crime scene was "odd" and that there were three signatures. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. not saying they were sexually assaulted, but posed they were. Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. It's a dangerous bridge with rotting slats of wood that you have to look at and be careful stepping on. I don't know why for 5 years the cops couldn't reveal the time this all occurred.